123cowboy

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 4:32:05 PM
wonder what the auto makers and UAW will have to say.....
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NHLiveFree

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 4:29:50 PM
One critical point this group at DARPA has ignored it the importance of having the design group at the manufacturing site. It provides vital knowledge of all the manufacturing steps and allows the design engineers to rapid adjustments and corrections to both the design and the process. They are inseparable and integration is 'priceless'.
DARPA programs like MMIC in the 80s do advance the 'state of the art', but do not solve all the problems. No armored vehicle in our military inventory has benefitted by process improvements from DARPA and the DoD acquisition system to date. When the first Abrams tank rolled off the production line at the AMC(later General Dynamics) plant in Warren, MI, the Army discovered they had no flat bed rail cars capable of holding the tank for transport to the final outfitter in PA or to any military depot! Minor detail was overlooked by non-integrated groups and added long delays while costing additional tens of millions.
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apiergallini

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 2:00:42 PM
Sounds pretty cool.
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northeast2

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 8:06:44 AM
Interesting.
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Sneakers55

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 6:40:31 AM
On Feb 4, 2012 6:22:27 AM, I wrote:
>It would have helped if the original poster would have included >a link to the full story.
Adaptive Vehicle Make homepage at DARPA
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Sneakers55

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 6:40:21 AM
<<remove inexplicable dupe>>
[Edited by: Sneakers55 at 2/4/2012 7:42:11 AM EST]
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Sneakers55

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 6:27:06 AM
On Feb 4, 2012 5:22:24 AM, Luckylindy wrote:
>Then the entire electronics industry got shipped overseas.
Consumer electronics, yes.
Semiconductor fabs, not nearly as much. Intel still has 64% of their fab capacity in the USA. Their other fabs are in Ireland and Israel. IBM Microelectronics makes the CPU for the Sony PlayStation 3 in New York State.
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Sneakers55

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 6:22:27 AM
Automotive plants that are the equivalent to semiconductor fabs already exist.
It would have helped if the original poster would have included a link to the full story.
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gawxnative

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 6:09:01 AM
Ok we'll see
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Luckylindy

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 5:22:24 AM
Then the entire electronics industry got shipped overseas.
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kenji554

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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 3:29:47 AM
Ok
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Ahking

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:06:50 AM
good to know. a natural progression to get this capability, the tools, & data structure.
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Martinman

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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:02:27 PM
The problem is that deisgning an automobile, is not the same as designing a printed circuit board (PCB).
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APlus

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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 8:06:12 PM
Replace humans with machines
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